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Never until the mankind making
Bird beast and flower
Fathering and all humbling darkness
Tells with silence the last light breaking
And the still hour
Is come of the sea tumbling in harness

And I must enter again the round
Zion of the water bead
And the synagogue of the ear of corn
Shall I let pray the shadow of a sound
Or sow my salt seed
In the least valley of sackcloth to mourn

The majesty and burning of the child's death.
I shall not murder
The mankind of her going with a grave truth
Nor blaspheme down the stations of the breath
With any further
Elegy of innocence and youth.

Deep with the first dead lies London's daughter,
Robed in the long friends,
The grains beyond age, the dark veins of her mother,
Secret by the unmourning water
Of the riding Thames.
After the first death, there is no other.

Copyright. Dylan Thomas Collected Poems 1934-1952 London, Dent, 1984.

Date: 2003-05-17 10:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] umpachki.livejournal.com
Mmmmmmmm.

I have the DT box set...

11 CDs, nothing but Dylan DYlan DYLAN

This one is on there.

Very good.

Date: 2003-05-17 11:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marka-.livejournal.com
Ha
me too
or, rather, a bastardized burned copy

Date: 2003-05-17 01:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theodicy.livejournal.com
A critic asked, "Does it change our perception of this poem to know that the dead child Thomas wrote about was actually a boy?" I say no, not at all.

Date: 2003-05-17 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theodicy.livejournal.com
I'm touched by the pain and frustration that comes through your comments. You've seen my memorial page; in the following 14 months I lost 3 more family members, two to suicide, and two more family members were diagnosed with cancer, one being my mother. (She's doing okay now.)

My feelings about Thomas and his choice to change the sex of the child? Because "daughter" and other associative words had better qualities of scansion and rhyme. Sometimes I think Thomas chose words for their atavistic effect, their ability to lull or excite or compel at a level below consciousness. This is badly said, I know, but oddly I was considering that idea this afternoon while reading something else entirely. Odd you should comment on it.

But you are correct in intimating that much of what passes for sentiment and poetic style is mawkish and sexist and ill-considered - at best. Any extinction of life is a cause for sorrow, even when it brings an end of suffering and pain.

And the final line - "After the first death, there is no other" - what the hell? If he means the fall from innocence, I think, and continue to think, that there are many such deaths.

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